A month or so ago, that was the question I was asking. Why was I asking? Well, he hosted one of the most important podcasts in his business about a month or so ago (yes, I’m a grown ass man and I watch wrestling. A lot. Deal with it) with one of the most talented guys to ever enter the squared circle.
See, there’s this guy who used to wrestle by the name of CM Punk. A few months after he quit the WWE, he did a podcast with Colt Cabana, sharing his experiences and frustrations with the company. Now there are a lot of guys with podcasts in that biz. SCSA, Jericho, Jim Ross, Piper, they’ve all got ‘em So how does some guy I’ve never heard of (mind you I started watching wrestling in 1981 shortly after Hogan took the strap off of the Iron Sheik) score such a cherry interview and why does the IWC (internet wrestling community) love this guy so much?
I gotta say, I was pretty hesitant to listen to the podcast. I dig CM Punk and everything I was reading about the interview made him sound like a bitter old man (even more so than listening to King Kong Bundy piss and moan). So, I looked into this Colt Cabana guy a bit more and how surprised was I that he’s a member of the tribe. See, there aren’t many Jewish wrestlers (or Jewish pro athletes for that matter), so when I found out he’s on wrestling’s Jewish Mt. Rushmore (alongside Paul Heyman, Barry Horowitz and Goldberg) I was intrigued.
I proceeded to listen to two of the most engrossing hours I’ve ever heard on a podcast (and I’ve listened to quite a few podcasts over the years). I’m not gonna tell you that there wasn’t some complaining in the interview, but the tone has been really overblown by the IWC. What it really did for listeners was show the world a side of the WWE that is rarely available for public consumption. As for the complaints, the guy was bitter. He was improperly utilized during his tenure and frankly quite a bit of the VKM stuff didn’t surprise me at all.
It’s been known for some time that these guys are all allegedly commodities for VKM that just get redlined until their respective engines throw a rod. There are exceptions to the rule (Brock, Rock, etc), but if you’re not getting heat or moving merch, you’re gonna get buried. Punk got plenty of heat and moved a ton of merch, but that didn’t seem to kick in to full gear until the relationship was broken beyond repair (see the events leading up to the 2011 MITB).
Overall, I was pretty damn impressed. The flow of the interview was solid, the questions weren’t a giant slow pitch softball fest and the information that was shared was pretty eye opening. Will CM Punk ever don the tights again for the WWE. I seriously doubt it. Maybe a few years away from the biz will change his mind, but if even half of the stuff he talked about is accurate there’s no way he’ll be back. The podcast is below, so take a listen and draw your own conclusions.